Unshow MMMMMM 49

Jack Mangans Deadpan Unshow MMMMMM 49

Unshow confusion

Deadpan mmmmmmeetup was last weekend. Lots of fun was to be had.

Thanks to all
(Dammit dammit dammit. Sorry, Randall.)

Record your favourite Dead Pan memories.

Contact Jack if you want to take part in the 60 part thingie.

Greasy Nipples:
Vanamonde (first comment of the week)
Cj
Lejon from Chandler
reaper
Lejon from Chandler
Ed From Texas
Ed From Texas

Prepare for Deadpan mmmmeetup 2011

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1,044 thoughts on “Unshow MMMMMM 49

  1. Morning Pan!

    My hubby was a bad boy. We were suppose to be able to sleep in this morning but, while I reset my alarm, somebody forgot to set their alarm to the new time. Not only that, when his alarm went off, he hit the wrong button and the alarm then went off five minutes later. That was that, the kitty decided it was time for me to wake up. Which wasn’t fair because hubby managed to roll over and get an extra hours sleep. Someone owes me a nap.

  2. Devils sweep Penguins.

    TEB congrats to Calgary last nite. While I’d never want them to beat the Avs, it does give me solace that Calgary is only a point behind Detroit now.

    Show time.

  3. I watched Lady Vengeance this morning and I agree with Jack. This was the best one. But then, it builds so beautifully on the themes and ideas from the prior two, that it isn’t possible for me to evaluate it on its own.

    And I think calling it a trilogy is wrong. It is more a triptych instead.

    The thing with the scissors and the tofu… yeah, that got me good.

  4. 1. Jack, my thoughts are with today.
    2. Self-indulgent? Yup. It’s a community. I kind of think they go hand in hand.
    3. I’m in for the thing. I’ll drop you an email.

    Unrelated:
    5. Download speed at 14.9KB/sec is painful. I didn’t like waiting.

  5. I think I brushed against L7 too soon. I’d just met Depeche Mode and Suzanne Vega; L7 was just too much.

    I should look ’em up again now.

    And cool on ya for keeping the flower on.

  6. i think I did the opposite. L7 was early high school, just as I was truly forming opinions about what kind of music I truly loved. Suzanne and Depeche came much later for me.

    Flower Power.

  7. I also love L7. I have an inside source (same one as for the Alice in Chains info from a few weeks back) who says Donita Sparks is truly whack, and somewhat toothless.

    My favorite L7 lyrics go: “enough about me/lets talk about you/what do you think of me me me”

  8. Inside Source = Wikipedia…… ;P

    Wait what song is that?
    My fav lyrics are “bite the wax, bite the wax tadpole. bite it. tadpole.”

    Thats rock.

  9. Oh hell! I dunno if I have that album.

    The song is “Bite the Wax Tadpole”. heh. From their debut. Feel free to…uh.. “borrow” that too.

  10. THATS IT???? Oddly the only one I dont have is the one you do have. I’ll borrow them to you next I see you. Classics.

    Tank Girl fucking rulz.

  11. ditto: I was a little to engrossed and excited to see a new Tron story to pay that much attention. I was mostly watching saying “oooo pretty” because I saw it before watching Alice in Wonderland in 3D IMax. That was the first movie I have seen in the theator since LotR

  12. Jack: Good Luck!

    LoPan: I have my daughter listening to L7 🙂

    Jack: I’m in on the 62 lines thingy!

    TEB: Drippy wet from the shower?

    DeadPan: Sorry I missed all the events. I’m confident with that many random people together in one place, it was a hot. I’ll plan harder next year to show up 🙂

    Ditto: Both trailers for Tron Legacy look AWESOME!!1!!11 I can’t wait to see that one!

  13. Hey Pan!

    Had my excitement for today. Took a girlfriend to lunch. When we got back a condo unit by her office was up in flames (that’s an understatement) so all the main roads were closed. Had to find a back route to Edge to get her to work. I did offer to bring her home with me and we could have coffee all day but she said she had work to do. Spoil sport.

  14. Just listened to the unshow, good luck Jack.

    My spine of glass comment was just me feeling sorry for myself, still in a lot of pain with my back, the painkillers prescribed by the Doc are next to useless and I’m relying on sponging stronger painkillers from a relative to get some relief at night.

  15. I was saddened after listening to Slice a couple weeks ago and hearing how skewered The Crazies is getting via critics. Image my surprise that, after over 130 reviews, its still at 72% fresh on Tomatoes. Thats excellent, and now I wanna see it again.

    Repo Men on the other hand….yeesh. That saddens me how basted its getting.

    I figured one of these two films would be a dumb slasher movie. Never thought itd be Repo.

  16. reaper: How dare you unleash that level of cuteness on this board! Why, it does a Hadoken of cuddles!

    ditto/reaper: Agreed. It wasn’t enough to assuage my fears, but does look like it may actually be bad-ass.

  17. JN, I don’t think i could have put it better myself…
    No really, I would have come up with the “Hadoken of cuddles”.
    That is awesome!

  18. To be honest, I don’t think I can watch Repo Men without thinking of Monty Python: “We’re here for your liver.” I think that will just ruin the movie for me. 🙂

  19. No worries, everyone. I appreciate the thoughts.

    Carry on.

    I do hope your back feels better, Van. Nothing funny about that. I hear the Canadian healthcare system has a method of replacing your entire skeletal structure with Adamantium – might be worth a look.

  20. “Compared to the Japanese, we are incompetent. In Japan, every criminal gets caught. For major crimes, convictions run ninety-nine percent. So any criminal in Japan knows from the outset he is going to get caught. But here, the conviction rate is more like seventeen percent. Not even one in five. So a criminal in the States knows he probably isn’t going to get caught – and if he’s caught, he won’t be convicted, thanks to all his legal safeguards.”

    Michael Crichton, Rising Sun

  21. I was under the impression, that the reason the Japanese capture rate was so high was because there was very little crime compared to the US or UK.

  22. Jack:

    A: I send you good luck through the Ether. I hope there will be reason to have another party soon.

    B: I don’t get the self-indulgent part. As Nomad Scry said, we’re a community. I guess it’s self-indulgent to have connections through an online community? Or perhaps the party is self-indulgent? Aren’t parties by definition self-indulgent? Damn, I had rum last night. I indulged my ass with that spicy nectar! Tonight, I will not make the Vitameatavegemin food-substitute that we normally eat. I’m going to be self-indulgent by seasoning my chicken. My summation is that this most likely comes from some miserable ass that needs to re-learn that one should listen twice as much as they speak.

    3: I’m up for the thing. I believe you have my address. If not, I’ll re-send.

  23. Null – I actually really enjoyed Mystery Men, however I never read the comic. That being said I think youre right on that point.

    I’m Jim Koch, brewer of Sam Adams….

  24. A quote from the comments about the clueless preacher:

    demoncat said:

    the video just proves that some one who did not try and can not figure out Avatar is just a movie about aliens cat creatures trying to save their homes from destruction is just a movie not some plot by satan for after all people have said the same thing about Dungeons and dragons from time to time. as for Battle Angel . it was one of the main reasons James made Avatar for the special effects in Avatar James wants for Battle Angel. why he has not made it yet. he has been busy with Avatar work. promotions and awards

    I can not tell my arse from me elbow when it comes to adverbs and adjectives, but this dude makes me feel like a grammar nazi. What the heck are they even trying to say here? BAH!

    (i.e. Internet comments make Hulk mad.)

  25. “People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it’s more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey… stuff.”

  26. i could understand it why couldnt you understand it nomad scry what person was saying was totally clear it made perfect sense james cameron movies vanilla ice cream whats grammar the internets are the end of grammar the next generations are going to communicate in some vague destructured language

  27. And a find Friday morning to all.

    I don’t know why, but we watched this last night:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182921/

    Let me just say, SyFy would have rejected this as too low quality to run as a Saturday night flick.

    Not all ninjas are created equal. Though I find it somewhat eery that you guys are talking about Ninja Koch at the same time I’m watching a movie with ninjas fighting in New York.

  28. TEB: When I went to that Kung Fu class, my feet got some pretty good abrasions, top and bottom. Lady J asked what was on my feet. “Eh, just blood.”. It’s annoying when you first start up again.

  29. TEB: You don’t find your feet toughen up pretty quickly? I can admit ankle injuries are annoying at any time. Actually, my knee still acts up from time to time. Running seems to help.

  30. The snow is HEAVY. I can’t even see the furniture whorehouse from my window today. The roads are just wet, though. Down South?

  31. *snicker* “down south”…

    Eh, depends what burb youre in oddly. Denver doesnt have much but Lakewood’s getting dumped on. Fuck it.

  32. Yeah!!!! Damns it Null!

    Oh Nomad, that terrible English post you…uh…posted, that guy has seriously never been right on the Topless Robot boards. More than once Ive wanted to virtually smack him upside the face. His posts actually hurt.

  33. just got a laugh from this…

    the setup: my old company just lost the other IT guy who is still helping a little. the new guy (1) changed the old guys (2) password to gain access to something 1 would have with his own log in.
    so the email:

    From 1:
    I had to reset your password to gain access to IT information and tools that are hosted on your workstation

    Would you please send me your login password.

    Reply from 2:
    If you reset my password, I don’t have a clue what it’d be.

    Reply from 1:
    Password for login username (If you logged off your workstation and logged back in)

    Reply from 2:
    (copy, paste) If you reset my password, I don’t have a clue what it’d be.

    I’m starting to feel bad for my old users.

  34. For the non-FB peeps –

    We’re heavy into deinventory here in the from Texas. While the kids are away, we’re splitting them up so they’ll each have their own rooms. Much stuff that we’ve niether seen nor used in many years is being put out to pasture. Expecting to make big drop offs to both Half Price Books and Goodwill later today.

    I have just put two, count ’em TWO 3.5″ floppy drives into the trash bag. That was difficult.

    /was an altar boy.

  35. THIS BUNNY IS NOT HAPPY!! Looks like someone was rooting through my recipe cupboard. I can’t find my favourite chocolate chip cookie recipe. If I have to settle, there will be hell to pay (or maybe no cookies – that’ll teach him)

  36. Reaper: wow. That’s just… wow. I feel sorry for your users too.

    Jack: that sucks. Do you have backups? I have two external HDs that I use for rotating backups. It isn’t expensive and is pretty easy to deal with.

  37. Make that three 3.5″ floppy drives. Just unearthed another one.

    I’m just waiting to spring the trap where the giant stone ball rolls out of the ceiling and chases me down the stairs.

  38. I’ve got a couple drawers filled with old computer gear I haven’t had the heart to get rid of. I remember throwing out my Pentium 200MMX board that I spent close to $400 on back in the day. That was hard.

  39. Ed, Don’t lose your hat
    Jack, that hurts I have resorted to a similar idea as ditto and than include some free sync software.
    Ditto, nice bunny!
    Bunny, or you could make some kind of cookies he doesn’t like

  40. Oh that makes me happier.

    Thats kafuct about your HD. Just went out just like that? Gotta be a retrieval option that wont cost kajillions

  41. reaper: As I am not involved in your IT FUBAR, I can laugh. Nice.

    Jack: That sucks.

    ditto: That angry bunny picture is awesome!

    Jack: Then I totally misunderstood the whole damn thing. I’m good at that.

  42. The HeavenField, book two. Makes the story a bit more interesting, but I’m still on the fence. And it seems it may take quite a while for book three.

  43. So I can never understand people who, even if you bring in a sample of what you’re looking for (i.e the old fuse) try to sell you the wrong thing.

    After much argument, I got my new fuse, put it in the oven aaaannnnndddd…

    nothing. Damn. That means I’ll have to call a repairman. No cookies for the hubby today :cwy:

    Now what do I do with this cookie dough?

  44. Jack: That’s too bad. I have a fairly large number of past Deadpan episodes on various devices in my house, as well as all of my own podcast stuff.

    TEB: In the U.S., a popular school fundraiser program involves selling frozen cookie dough. Could the dough you made be frozen?

  45. Jack: If you need help retrieving data from the hard drive, I might be able to help. I’ve done it before. It all depends on how bad the drive is. Of course, if you don’t care about what’s on there then problem solved. 🙂

  46. Jack: You need some good luck. You’ve had far too much of the other. I hope this works out.

    TEB: Scrub Scrub Scrub!!! Then put that cookie dough into ice cream and go for it!

  47. NO

    Paramount Pictures is remaking the 1987 film The Monster Squad. Rob Cohen, who produced the original, hopes to direct the remake. Cohen will produce with Platinum Dunes partners Michael Bay, Brad Fuller and Andrew Form, and they’re meeting with writers.

    *softly weeps*

  48. Sucks about the drive, Jack. Definitely a good idea to invest in some kind of backup solution. I’ve been bitten by the renegade drive problems a few times over the years.

    Just got back from the book store. Got $53 for about eight banker boxes of random books that we were ready to let go of. And we got a lot of bookshelf and closet space back.

  49. Jack: You can try looking into GetDataBack and DIY Data Recovery Tools. I’ve used both, though GetDataBack is much easier to use.

  50. Speaking of data recover, I own a program that is pretty good. I’m not sure how it works with Vista, but if you want to give it a try Jack, you’re welcome to it.

  51. Sleep was necessary for man when his waking and unconscious lives were separated. As Eternals achieved total consciousness. Sleep became obsolete and Second Level meditation took its place.

  52. Caution: You are approaching the periphery shield of Vortex Four. Caution: You are approaching the periphery shield of Vortex Four.

  53. So – hard drive kafuct does not mean the end of the world.

    It means the loss of many pics of my little ones, which is pretty damn horrible, plus the loss of a number of important docs and Deadpan archives and accessory files (bumpers, etc.).

    I have, however, saved a number of docs in online storage locales and on my USB drive.

    The sky has fallen – – but it will be ok.

  54. What’s the cause for the hatred, Rhett?

    Indeed it is/was my laptop HD. If I hadn’t nailed it to the perch, it’d be pushing up the daisies.

    Thanks for the data recovery recommendations, guys. Rhett, I might take you up on that program, Rhett, if available.

  55. The 2012 Zardoz Enforcer.

    You will never drive another vehicle like it.
    V8 engine with 460 horses under the hood.
    Fully adjustable heated power bucket seats.
    a 200 inch wheel base
    independent suspension and power stearing
    oil cushioned shocks
    Enough trunk room to hold a girls teen soccer team,
    and optional front-hood machine gun mounts and rocket launchers.

    Make your apocalypse a ride to remember!

  56. Zardoz! Apply directly to the forehead. Zardoz! Apply directly to the forehead. Zardoz! Apply directly to the forehead. Zardoz! Apply directly to the forehead. Zardoz! Apply directly to the forehead. Zardoz! Apply directly to the forehead. Zardoz! Apply directly to the forehead. Zardoz! Apply directly to the forehead. Zardoz! Apply directly to the forehead. Zardoz! Apply directly to the forehead. Zardoz! Apply directly to the forehead.

  57. Jack: you can always try getting a new HD for the laptop and plugging the old HD into an external HD slot and see if you can reclaim the data. All may not be lost. if you’re still having difficulty, I live nearby many geeks who may be able to recover the data for you. Just let me know.

  58. Jack: If all else fails, you can ship the drive to me. I’ve recovered data before and I’d be happy to do it for you. So long as the head isn’t buried in the platter, all hope is not lost.

  59. Nothing like a cheesecake to say you are sorry.
    http%253A%252F%252Fnews.bbc.co.uk%252Fgo%252Frss%252F-%252F2%252Fhi%252Famericas%252F8577579.stm&h=c13f4c33ab14960040c735f2a367aa1f&refid=0

  60. Saw Repomen tonight. I’ll have to do a mash up audio promo for it. I was laughing quite hard when Jude Law’s character was watching TV and I hear “We’ve come for your liver”. Pure awesomeness. Movie was different then I had expected. It’s one of those movies that’ll have you thinking a few hours after you see it. Worthy of discussion this movie is.

    Goodnight mush.

    Jack: Wish I could do more than just cheer you on with your purchase. Good luck getting back up and running!

  61. Has anyone used Carbonite or something like it for automated online backup services? I’ve been thinking it would be a better idea than my current setup (duplicating to the portable drive sitting next to my tower) and after Jack’s loss… well, I’m superstitious and would consider this my final warning.

  62. Jack: Sorry for your binary and monetary losses. At least you can upgrade your drive.

    Nomad Scry: Nope. I heard something vaguely good about Amazon storage a while back. Perhaps you can post a query at OSTalk.org.

    Vanamonde: That is shit-in-your-drawers amazing!

  63. Re: Ume:

    Grooveshark only has Wake and Hurricane. Wake is one of the worst things I’ve ever submitted my ears to. Hurricane isn’t so bad. Sort of a like if Janis Joplin was lead singer in Ladytron.

  64. To each his own, Null. Dont judge a body of work by two songs tho. Go look up the ne EP “Sunshower”. May be more your style.

  65. We have cleaned and cleaned and cleaned this morning – wow, how do we accumulate so much STUFF? Now we’re headed to the Hard to Recycle joint in Boulder. We have plastic bags from two tons of pellets – it was a COLD winter! From there, we’re off to order lumber for new fascia and soffit and to pick a paint color.

    I checked out Ume on emusic, and dig em. I’m not sure I heard Wake or Hurricane – my short-term memory is exceptionally SHORT.

  66. I told you “The Gathering Storm” was going to be a good one.

    Though, I still haven’t forgiven you for hooking me on Acacia. Now I’ve got two series that I’m having to wait for the next book on. 🙂

  67. My bracket is fucked. I suppose thats what I get for filling out one even tho I didnt watch a single college BB game this year. Ah well.

  68. Sorry, Ed. Now I feel like I want to read all the WOT books again – maybe via audiobook. I’ve read these effing books 3 times already. I really like what is happening with the Aes Sedai and liked Rand’s big finish in the latest book.

    I have three series for which I’m waiting for books: Fire and Ice, WOT, and Acacia! At least we know with Acacia that #3 will be the last . . .

    Man, Boulder sux.

  69. Will any other deadpanites be making it out to the So Cal Meetup tomorrow? I see Amy is a maybe (I hope you’ll make it. Looking forward to meeting you). If you need the address, let me know via email, facebook, DM in twitter, etc.

  70. I made a vow to myself that I wasn’t going to reread the WOT until the last book was done. I’ve got plenty to read/listen to to keep me busy, but now that I can be reasonably sure that the series will be finished (and finished well, if Sanderson’s first book is any indication) that I am looking forward to hitting it from the beginning.

    There are a few other series that I follow, though with some of them (like Janny Wurts), I’m not even sure why anymore. Others, like the Sword of Truth, are, as far as I know, complete. I’m just working my way through them.

  71. Got my stove fixed today. $500 did not make for a very happy bunny :angry:

    On the up side, gonna kill me some trolls in about half an hour. That does make for a happy bunny 🙂

  72. Jack, Rhettro, and any other guitarists here: Tonight, I went to Country at the Merc (a live music show), and the lead guitarist had forgotten his slide bar. He used a cell phone. It worked perfectly well. I thought you would be amused, and perhaps file this fact away for future reference.

    Night, Pan. :happy:

  73. Good Sunday Morning, DP!

    We watched Whiteout with Kate Beckinsale last night. OMG, what a stinker. Writing = awful; acting = embarrassing; plot = sophomoric. But we watched the whole thing. It starts w/ Kate in the shower and goes straight downhill from there for about 1.5 hours.

    No I’m catching up on my comic subscriptions. I’ve set them aside since I started the Jordan book, and they’ve really piled up!

  74. If you are willing to take the time and can spare a tab in your browser, then you can listen to Ume’s 2nd album off of their website.

    I had something else I wanted to say, perhaps in response to Lo Pan, but EssBee’s shower scene completely drove all thoughts from my mind.

  75. Looking through news updates and see that the HCR will be voted on today.

    If it does indeed pass, I find myself wondering if by tomorrow evening the country will have the same ” non-event, let down” that the country felt after Y2K came and went with barely a whimper.

    I suspect that the followers of the radical right will be standing around feeling cheated because the gates of hell did NOT open up and all our major cities are NOT in flames with chaos and rioting in the streets.

    … and those who have been desperately needing some relief from healthcare costs will suffer the letdown of realizing that they won’t see anything change for months (at best).

    There has just been so much build up about this … both fear and hope – without this issue to dominate the news, what will the public use to fill the void?

    Will the College Basketball Tourny be enough … or do you think we will need another major celebrate scandal?

  76. Lo Pan was a late bloomer.. that explains so much about him

    if you need the scandal to be even more amazing I will gladly volunteer to be Kate Beckinsales other woman. Hubba Hubba.

    [unrelated tangent]
    I’m suffering from SXSW envy
    [/unrelated tangent]

  77. Van sez: feet of lead, spine of glass

    CJ sez: things to bring to Dennys

    Jacks equipment
    *snicker*

    Lejon sez: spring break

    reaper sez: self adornment

    Lejon sez: we will we will nub you

    Ed: bizarre nub triabge

    Ed: light week. NOT

  78. Wow, was that as good for the rest of you as it was for me? Ye olde play-by-play action of TSH certainly must rank as a favorite deadpan memory.

    Well done, and yes, you guys haven’t lost a thing.

  79. Holy cow, a play-by-play! Welcome back (whether it’s only for a brief visit or not), TSH!!!

    I think almost all the Deadpan episodes ever have been good. 🙂

    I had a lot of fun at the Deadpan Meetup! 🙂 Yes, of course you’re invited! 🙂

  80. Awwww, well thanks peeps 🙂 it was fun to play by play again. Hugh has been having a bit of an off day and needed the laugh.

    Lo Pan, I don’t think its so much as a tournament no one cares about, its more about the schools and the kids than the actual sport. Like March Madness isn’t for the love of basketball. Its for the love of peoples schools. Every NCAA tournament in every sport is exciting, for that school and those kids. Honestly 7 times out of 10 people are more into hockey than basketball it seems.

    Hugh was saying they should start doing highschool tournaments because they just cancelled all sports programs for all Freshman and Sophmores in Chicago Public Schools. They already cancelled art and music, now they are taking away their sports. It sucks. If they are not good enough to play in varsity, they can’t play at all. March Madness for all its annoyance keeps sports programs going in schools.
    Course on the flip side the whole ignoring a kids education if he is a great athlete is pretty lame too 🙂

    nighty night pan
    night mush

  81. @ Amy Bowen — I can totally imagine playing slide with a cell phone, though it wouldn’t work real well with mine. I think I could do it with my wife’s.

    My first slide was a piece of copper pipe that I found in my backyard when I was about 17. It fit my ring finger perfectly, so I polished it up and used it for years. My son still uses it today. I finally upgraded to a glass slide because I got tired of my finger turning green :wassat:

    I’ve also attempted to play slide with a screwdriver, a Sharpie, a Swiss Army knife, and a Colt .45 revolver. Thankfully I managed that last one without killing anyone or scratching the barrel (which probably would have led to my own death at the hands of my father). And I sounded equally bad with all of them :sick:

  82. I caught a few episodes but it quickly became so bad that I found I was just fast forwarding through large portions of it … then I hit one about a tornado that was just soooo bad/silly that I took the show off my TiVo list.

  83. Just got off the phone with the founder of our local SF convention. He spent close to an hour bitching at me over the new guest list (all media, no authors). He hasn’t been involved for several years, but still gets very upset if things do not follow how he thinks they should be. I shrug and say, if we wanted to put in our opinion we should still be involved, otherwise it’s no longer our call. Cliff says he agrees, but I still get the hour long phone call rants. Silly man. :biggrin:

    Here is the current guest list if anybody cares: http://www.con-version.org/Announcements.html

  84. Among other things, I pulled a load of laundry from the dryer. My kitty is finally curled up on the warm, fresh from the dryer, towels. I’m almost jealous.

    It looks like we’re going to get a bit of weather. My kitty’s arthritic and I’m sure she’s feeling it today. :pouty:

  85. CIMM: the seen from the Jerk (I think) where one guy says “Damn IT (guys name)” other guy says “I Damn thee”…
    I most likely have that all wrong but that is how it is in my head.

  86. These include –

    Water , Sodium Lauryl Sulfate , Sodium Pareth-23 , C12-14-16 Dimethyl Amine Oxide , SD Alcohol 40-B , Undeceth-9 , PPG-26 , Sodium Chloride , Cyclohexanediamine , Polyacetate , Fragrance , FD&C Yellow #5 , D&C Red No. 33

  87. justa J0e. i think you might want to start by removing the Yellow #5 but adding a kitten and maybe some movie quotes. that is at least a start.

  88. Jack, yes, very much. I was surprised. The best example is the last glass or two of wine in a bottle is often undrinkable next day. With that thing it is nearly as good as the day before.

  89. In some areas socialism is absolutely necessary to actual get something done or in some cases to save money. I can admit that. I don’t think any tea party goer would deny that. IE the Subway in New York or their city watter. but for me in my little town I have a well and I never use public transit.
    Would people on the other end take a pledge to for go anything that was brought about by capitalism? I’m sure they wouldn’t. I wouldn’t expect them to. But there are lines that I don’t think should be (or should have been) crossed. One example is Unemployment Insurance. I would buy my own if their wasn’t a system in place.

  90. OMG. I’m older than EssBee. I’m not sure why that comes as such a surprise…

    EssBee: I was the manager of my highschool BB Team. I lettered in it. Now, I don’t watch it either.

    VAN: John Barrowman played a Blond Arian Nazi in “The Producers”. The man can sing. It was proof that he could easily pull off Captain America… Of course, he’s a citizen of the UK, so the ‘merican Hollywierd perducers decided not to use him. Bollocks. He’d be awesome.

    George Lazenby is still alive? 2nd Worst Bond evar. How does he fit into the rest of the Trek themed guests?

    Gas Station Customer: “Damn these glasses, son.”
    Navan Johnson: “OK. I Damn Thee!”
    (sigh. I can’t believe I’m correcting people’s quotes.)

  91. reaper: The movie is The Jerk. Steve Martin flick. He plays “a poor black child” named Navan (Navin?) Johnson.

    On his adventure to find a place where he can fit in, he goes through a number of jobs, like working at a circus, and a gas station attendant.

    A man comes into his service station, is constantly leaning forward and having his glasses slide off his face and cursing the glasses. At one point he says “Damn these glasses, son.”

    So Navan picks up the glasses, points at them and says, “I Damn Thee!”.

    Then he repairs the glasses so that they stop falling of the man’s face, and adds a little handle to the bridge so that the man won’t put stress on the hinges which causes them to fall off, but rather put all the stress on the bridge where it belongs.

    The invention later becomes called “the Optigrab” and makes and loses Navan a fortune.

  92. “In more distressing news, it appears that Isla Fisher married Borat”

    She must just enjoy the simple things in life. Like assreams of body hair.

  93. Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure.

    I saw it 6 times in the theater.
    Got the VHS for a birthday.
    Lost the VHS when an apartment got burglarized.
    Searched long and hard for a replacement years later, only to find a copy with Spanish subtitles (¡Exellente!)
    And then it finally was released to DVD, and I now have a copy that I can watch any old time.

  94. All my life
    I’ve wanted to fly
    Like the birds
    that you see
    way up in the sky.

    Making circles
    in the morning sun
    Flying hi in the sky
    ’til the day is done.

    I can’t break away.
    I can’t break away.

    Like a child
    in his fantasy
    Punching holes
    in the walls
    of reality

    All my life
    I’ve wanted to fly
    but I don’t have the wings
    and I wonder why

    I can’t break away.
    I can’t break away.

    Oh, Momma told me
    when I was young
    Stand tall girl you’re number one
    Well you can be
    what you want to be
    but you can’t change the course of your
    destiny

    I can’t break away.
    I can’t break away.

    —Big Pig

  95. The following comment –

    ‘I wanna rock
    Rock.
    I want to rock
    I wanna rock
    Rock.
    I want to rock’

    Is not :ftb: approved. Hmm.

    Mr. :ftb: make a little money sending people you dont know to Iraq
    Mr. :ftb: I dont like you. You dont know how to rock.

  96. Wow! Next Deadpan MMMMeetup, we need a Bill and Ted film set tour!

    (Although, part of me is wondering: If “Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure” was made and distributed by Hollywood companies, as I presume it was, why on Earth did they go all the way to Phoenix/Tempe to film when the real San Dimas is right in their backyard? Or maybe it was made independently?)

    I am serious about wanting to go and see those places the next time I’m in Phoenix, though.

    Night, Pan.

  97. Bunny, I would bet it is crap.
    But I look at it this way: like the movies Blair Witch and Paranormal Activity, we know they are movies but if you go in with the mind set it is real and you want to be entertained it can still be fun. And in both cases mission accomplished.

  98. Tuesday can only get better…
    lost starts at 7!!!! well the one I missed last week will start at 7. Maybe it is time to take back my Tivo for Tuesday night.

  99. I’m not in the mood for political stuff today but I’m sure I could find just as much stuff on the other side.
    I think I still have a case of the Mondays.

  100. The onion is great. I try to listen but often nothing downloads or I get the last month of podcasts. maybe it is just iTunes on win7 64bit. rarely had that issue with XP-32bit.

  101. The Flobots one.

    reaper: Yeah, both parties are very hypocritical. I took that article, not as a screed against conservatives in general, but as one conservative that is very disappointed in the GOP. I think he raises some good points about not feeling represented by that party any more.

  102. Dammit EssBee I wish the music transfer would have worked!!!

    Flobots – local boys (and one hottie girl) that made good. I feel I should like them more because of that. Just cant get into em.

  103. Lo Pan: I only heard of Flobots when they had their megahit “Handlebars”. I didn’t like the song at first, at least until I listened to the lyrics. The album “Fight With Tools” won me over. Musically, I don’t think they are anything special, but they have great lyrics. I haven’t had a chance to listen to anything else they’ve done.

  104. Chris Evans has signed on to be Cap America. While I know this isnt most folks first choice it could be alot worse. He’s pretty much the only reason to ever watch the Fantastic Four films.

  105. Ha! Another Flobots song came up in shuffle — Handle Bars

    They’re kinda silly.

    I think Sly B snuck these into our music library . . . Sneaky, sneaky

  106. I dont mind the choice…yet.

    Plus considering what theyre gonna do with the origin story….belch. That alone gives me low expectations

  107. “The Ten Word Wiki does not have any entries with the exact title “deadpan”
    Would you like to create a new page with this title?”

    Anyone here have the skilz to correct this abomination?

  108. JOe: Wiki pages are easy to create. You’ll need to create a login. Then type in deadpan and follow the instructions. Links are created by doing something like [[ and ]] around keywords, iirc.

  109. Yes Lejon but you know Barrowman was a pipe dream. Like Ive said, Evans was the only redeeming portion of the Fantastic Four movies so we (at least lots of folks I talk to) know he can play a superhero role pretty well. Again, not my first choice but it doesnt make me cringe either.

  110. I would argue that it’s not about “the other side”, it’s about our common struggle to — holy fuck, why is it raining again? This is Phoenix! Where’s my goddamn dry heat?

  111. Lo Pan: I have no problems with Evans playing superheroes. But I see him more as the smart-alec, cocky one, not the Super Soldier. He should be playing Green Arrow or Spider-man, or a red shir… um… Side Kick… yeah…

    Barrowman, in all his greatness, could never save the American Torchwood. It is doomed, because American TV execs don’t “Get” British shows.

    Rhettro: Brendon Frazer is a little past his Superhero-in-tights prime I think.

    EssBee: Barrowman is an actor. He may be a flaming cream-cheese filled bagel in real life, but when he’s on screen, he’s 100% professional and in the role. He has a weight to his performances that says, in all simplicity, “hero”. That’s what Captain America needs. But instead, they went with the court jester…

  112. JR –
    Thanks for the link!
    I tried it as well and got the same results.

    “What this bill means for your insurance coverage:
    There will be no change to your insurance coverage.

    What the bill means for your taxes:
    You will not pay any additional taxes.”

    If any other ‘Merican Deadpanites would care to try out that link it would make for an interesting and likely, statistically insignificant sub-sample.

  113. I do have 2 concerns, maybe someone better-informed can clear these up?:

    What’s the deal with the fines for uninsured citizens? So if I lose my job and can’t afford Health Insurance, I get a fine to add to my financial woes?

    Currently, people *with* insurance coverage are getting bankrupted by their serious illnesses. How has this been addressed?

  114. Lejon: “Barrowman, in all his greatness, could never save the American Torchwood. It is doomed, because American TV execs don’t “Get” British shows”

    Agreed. Tho The Office is a welcome exception. Until this piss poor season at least.

  115. Course the BBC doesnt do all that well at doing American shows either. We should all just stop remaking each others shite. World unite!

  116. Just for fun … I played with the “annual income” numbers on the calculator link that JR posted above.
    Seems that I would have to make over $200,000 a year before this new plan cause my taxes to go up. At $200,001 I would see my medicare payroll taxes go up by .9%

    I know that is terrible and all … but I just want to say that, because I love you guys and want to make sure ALL of you an get coverage and I’m totally socialist and all that … If someone out there would be willing to pay me $200,001 U.S. dollars a year, I’m volunteering to take the check and suffer that .9% tax hike.
    Hey, I’m here for you guys. :biggrin:

    (BTW – get me that $200,001 per year job and I throw in ALL the food and drinks at the next Mmmmmmeet-up!)

  117. Jack – good questions to which I don’t know the answers.

    I input – “No insurance” and “0” income in the old calculator and this is what came up.
    “GAME OVER MAN!”

    okay. not really.
    This is what came up.

    “What this bill means for your insurance coverage:
    Beginning no later than 2014, you will be eligible for Medicaid. The health bill expands Medicaid to all individuals and families with income at or below 133 percent of the federal poverty level. Depending on where you live, people with higher incomes may also be eligible.
    “What this bill means for yourTaxes:
    You will not pay any additional taxes.”

  118. Basically I see the ‘tax the rich’ method as ‘punish the successful’ which I don’t agree with. I know people need help from time to time, but Welfare has been used as a lifestyle by far too many and something else needs to be put in place. Like making the welfare recipients who are capeable of working do work for the government like cleaning up the highways, digging ditches, SOMETHING. Get people off the mindset of I deserve something for free.

    Okay, I’ll stop ranting and go back to listening to 8-bit metallica songs 🙂

  119. Lejon: I’m not sure I agree with you on the actor thing as a blanket statement. I think the reality show I saw on BBC America with him as the host ruined me ever seeing him as C.A. I can see him as a hero. I can see him in tights with a cape. Just not C.A.

    Lo Pan: smoke?

  120. One of the biggest problems with “tax the rich” is the rich leave or find some other way to pay less. I’m not rich but I pay an accountant every year to do my taxes because I don’t want to pay anymore than I have to.

  121. I have a friend who worked for the inland revenue. Some of the tales she told of how the’rich’ avoided paying taxes made my blood boil.

    As a PAYE pleb, I’m all for these fuckers to be stuck in a hole and concrete poured in.

    The welfare spongers are rank amateurs in comparison.

  122. Ugh, unfortunately. I quit for several years, but just picked the nasty habit up again in February. I’ve already bought the nicotene gum, but there it sits in the medicine cabinet.

  123. A system that withdrew unfair percentages of taxes from the wealthy would be unfair and, as reaper points out, self-defeating.

    I’ll go out on a limb and assert that no mega-wealthy person’s lifestyle has been negatively impacted by any US Presidential Admin’s tax policies during our lifetimes. If you make over 200k per year, you’re not rich, but you definitely have some cushion… Every paycheck dollar doesn’t (literally) determine basic necessities like food, shelter, transportation, clothes etc.

    Sigh. That 8-bit Orion is a wonderful thing.

  124. JR – I am in agreement with you on the “no money for deadbeats thing” … but I think you VASTLY overestimate the number of “deadbeat” people on welfare.

    There are millions of “working poor” out there. Folks that work 40 or more hours a week and still can’t afford food, clothing AND housing for their families. Throw in sudden medical care for something like the flue … and they are financially done for.

    Case in point.
    My own sister, who came from an upper middle class background and a college degree – found herself qualifying for government assistance when her military employed husband dumped her with 3 kids. She had a 40 hour a week job but
    sailor boy’s meager child support combined with her salary did not raise her above the poverty line.
    She was anything but deadbeat and it was not a lifestyle she had ever dreamed of, much less desired.

    I really really really think you have been sold a bill of goods on the percentage of people who abuse the system and I believe this is because no one on Fox (or few other News-tainment shows for that mater) ever does a featured segment on the working poor … but they will march 2 or 3 gold chain wearing, Cadillac driving (no offense Ed – your car is teh hawt) welfare deadbeats in front of the camera in a heart beat and pass THEM off as representative of the entire group.

    My sister had no interested in putting her story on TV. Those wishing to villainize her for needing assistance have an entire 24 hour, national TV network at their disposal. So it’s easy to see why conventional wisdom says – social programs are for deadbeats.

    Just saying.

  125. one more problem with “Tax the Rich” what about people like Paris Hilton?
    she no longer needs an income so she could make $100/year but still be rich. Than she would have to pay no more than $4 (4% of annual income) for insurance.

    Ditto, Baseball is sooooooo two weeks from now. 4-5 is the brewers home opener. Wish I could have gotten tickets for a reasonable price. I don’t watch cactus league games.

  126. In addition to the working poor out there, there are lots of people who have untreated diseases (e.g., addiction, mental ilnesses) who would be lumped into the deadbeat category.

  127. Hey Joe.

    I understand people need help from time to time and I appreciate that. I know there are a LOT of people who truly need that assistance. My perspective comes from living in that condition for a number of years, seeing how many people abused the system, and made more money than I do now by popping out kids and staying single. My comments are by no means meant to belittle the situation of those who honestly need and deserve that help.

    I have seen multi-genrational abuse of the system of granddaughters being educated by their grandmothers and mothers on how to get every last penny from the system. Have a few kids (who cares who the fathers are) apply for welfare, then have more kids. It’s really sad to see these kids grow up and realize this is NOT how life is supposed to be.

    For those people who need the help, I’m all for them getting the help they need for as long as they need it, but I don’t see welfare as a lifestyle that many I’ve seen use it for. that’s all I’m saying.

    I was in need at one time in my life and hopefully I’ve moved past that time. It sucked. Badly. I feel sorry for those that need that help. I wish there was something the government would do to help them OUT of their situation instead of just giving hand outs and keeping them in that situation.

  128. I agree that we should safeguard against Cadillac-driving freeloaders (which doesn’t include Ed) and spoiled rich Paris Hiltons and George W. Bushes (can we pass an anti Paris Hilton law?), but not at the expense of the rest of us.

    I’ve seen all of Akira Kurosawa’s samurai films – – the man was a genius.

    Bill Paxton pinball? What do you think it says when the last ball is played?

  129. On a much lighter note, I’ve recorded episode 3 of Billy Barbarian. WOO WOO! Will edit and mix tonight and release tomorrow.

    Jack, let me know when you have your computer back up and running so we can have a pre Wall-a-palooza chat 🙂

  130. yick
    I think my post came across too harsh.

    What I am passionate about is … It’s not “helping people” that is our problem, it’s those who abuse our trust and goodwill. So let’s get tough on them and not all the people that they hide behind who truly need and are grateful for a hand in getting back up.

  131. JR: I will still do the recordings you requested of me. I plan on installing Audacity tonight. We’ll also have to plan a time to talk the Wall.

    Everyone:

    We have 16 potential voices on for the 60 Lines thing. I’ll probably try to get confirmation from everyone by the end of the week.

  132. Wisconsin is particularly when it comes to the 0 income wealthy getting help. we have badger care for kids who’s parents don’t make a certain amount. I have a cousin who works at a clinic. She tells me all the time about people coming to the clinic in brand new Escalade’s with kids on badger care. but how to you measure wealth when it is easy to convert the money to something that isn’t counted.

  133. I like big backs and I can not lie
    You other brothers can’t deny
    That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
    And a podcast in your face
    You get sprung

    Baby got Jack

  134. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah-Yeah-Yeah
    And the Jack in the back said everyone attack
    And it turned into a ballroom blitz
    And the Jack in the corner said boy I want to warn you
    It’ll turn into a ballroom blitz
    Ballroom blitz, ballroom blitz, ballroom blitz, ballroom blitz

  135. Just sixteen, a deadpan podcast,
    Out of money, out of luck.
    He’s got no PLACE to call his own,
    Hit the gas, and here he goes.

    Jack’s running free yeah, he’s running free.
    Jack’s running free yeah, Oh he’s running free.

  136. Oh, I was afeared we were rolling into a Jack meme there. (To which I would lamely add “Enter Jackman”)

    JR, the 60 Lines thing started out as a sortof Highbrow/Lowbrow without the burping. I’m not against the return of the segment.

  137. hay pan,
    got my beer, got my remote, and lost is about to start.
    I’ll be in my bunk!
    no, really I have to watch in my room. I’m the only lost fan in the house.

  138. Greetings pan.

    I’m all for getting welfare abusers out of Cadillacs 🙂 I worked hard to be able to afford mine.

    Like, JR, I certainly have no issue with helping those who need it. I find it disappointing that many of those who would call America a Christian nation seem to forget that there’s action intended to go along with that – meaning caring for you neighbor.

  139. Well, this is a nice bonus – my cable modem has been giving me trouble and my upload speeds have been crap of late. I took it to Comcast to swap out for a new one.

    Still had trouble with the speed, so I did some playing around with the router. Flipped some switches and got a massive increase in my upload speed and a pretty good increase in my download speed as well.

    I didn’t need the cable company to throttle my bandwidth. I was apparently choking myself.

  140. I forgot what a simply damn fine song Bjork’s “Army of Jack”…er…”Army of Me” is. One of the finest bass lines evar.

  141. Hey hey! Not only is the satellite out now (which means no TIVO which means no Lost) but the power is about to go out too!

    OH COLORADO FUN IN MARCH! BWAQH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!xfsdcacdcsdc

  142. In really important news (sorry if this has been said already) Joe BIden is in trouble for saying “fucking”.

    Who fucking cares?

  143. By the fucking grace of god Im able to fucking watch fucking Lost on my crappy fucking TV. Without fucking giving any fucking spoilers I just fucking wanna say that fucking Richard Alpert is suddenly my fucking favorite fucking character on fucking Lost.

  144. Fucking best fucking episode of Lost this season. EssBee if you cant see it Ill burn you DVD copy and get it to you before next week.

    Before this I thought Alpert was a douche and idiot. Now I want to marry him.

  145. This is the best Fucking set of posts this week. I can’t fucking believe it!!

    Just curious, if Global Warming does mean ‘no snow’ then the warming isn’t global, or am i misunderstanding the term ‘global’ in that phrase??

  146. JR: You are making a simple, but understandable, misconception that global warming means hot. It doesn’t. It’s about energy.

    Ed: Yeah. Tron Legacy looks cooler each time I look at it.

    Night pan.

  147. Oh, it’s gone all dark outside … this must mean that the sun is going out!.

    (A parallel to – “It’s snowing … in winter … that must mean the average yearly temperatures at the polar ice caps must not be going up!” )

    Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

    *thunk*

  148. I don’t like Captain America. I didn’t like the Fantastic Four movies. So I shouldn’t care. And yet, for some reason, that casting makes me so angry. Ugh.

    Worst part of the FF movies! Seriously!

    WHY!?

    But!

    Ahhhhh…

  149. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming#Temperature_changes

    “The most common measure of global warming is the trend in globally averaged temperature near the Earth’s surface”

    so either the ‘global’ part is wrong or the ‘warming’ part is wrong. Either way, greenhouse gasses cause the entire Earth’s surface to be warmer in ‘global warming’. If it’s not, they there is something wrong with the name, its use, or the theory. Or I’m just really confused over the entire mess. 🙂 Any of these are possible. Regardless, I still blame Al Gore for everything. if he hadn’t invented the internet, this wouldn’t be a problem. 🙂

    Anyway, I’m off to fucking bed.

  150. Essbee if you want your lost fix this week, I can convert the AVI I’m grabbing to MP4 so yiu can play it on your Mac and upload it to a file hosting service for you to grab.

  151. Van! If you could, that would be super-awesome! If not, Lo Pan, I might take that DVD!

    Snow, snow snow. I wonder if Evil begins late on a day like today. I think I’ll work from home today.

  152. Morning Deadpan!

    Tron2 looks great. I see Clash of the Titans in our near future. I wanted to boycott it because I saw no evidence of Bobo (my favourite character in the original) 🙁 by hubby has managed to convince me it might be worth seeing anyway 🙂

  153. I wonder what it would take to convince my hubby to see a doctor…

    I know he’s really sick. For this first time, that I recall, in the entire time I’ve known him, he’s actually taking a sick day. I use to say he’d have to be dead before he missed a day of work. I think I’m a little worried.

  154. JR: It’s more accurate to call it global climate change.

    Nomad Scry: As far as I can tell from reading the script, the lines in italics indicate what a particular character is thinking at that moment.

    I’m UNofficially in for Script Frenzy. Not going to go for the certificate, because both of the script projects I have in the works have already been started.

  155. Amy – Then the iitalics are … like a direction for the actor, rather than a voice over?

    TEB – Kick his ass and make him go to the doctors. Being annoyed is better than spending a week in hospital.

  156. Perhaps I should explain. I used to be the “I can suffer it fine” guy until I ended up in the hospital for two weeks because I had pneumonia for several weeks before and refused to admit I was not okay. Since then, I’m paranoid about everyone else going to the doctor. I don’t go very much more than I did before, but I certainly keep telling everyone else that they need to.

    No, I’m not a hypocrite. Much.

  157. I go to the doctor regularly, but then I have medical issues that makes the doctors mad if I don’t.

    My hubby has only been a couple of times in the years I’ve known him. He only recently started going to to dentist and started with the optometrist last year (it was seven years between visits). One step at a time is my attitude. I figure, sooner or later he’ll add the doctor to his routine.

  158. JR: Yes, global average temperatures go up, but your confusion is mistaking that for local scale changes. At a particular location, the temperature doesn’t necessarily go up. It is an average.

    In addition, raising the global average temperature means that there is far more energy in weather systems. Since weather has never been very predictable, adding more energy means you’ll have bigger storms, larger temperature fluctuations, and so on.

    This winter, storms disrupted the Gulf Stream and drove the current into the arctic. Adding energy to the polar region created a number of large winter storms that smashed Canada, the US, and many other northern countries. We got a colder winter, but the arctic “warmed” up.

    As Amy pointed out, many scientists are moving away from the term “global warming” since the term is a bit confusing to the average person (pun intended).

  159. *warms up the band*

    All you need is Jack.
    Ba da da dadum.
    All you need is Jack.
    Ba da da dadum.
    All you need is Jack.
    Jack.
    Jack is all you need.

  160. I’m allergic to bees. Bees can fucking kill me and I don’t hate them like I hate wasps. WI doesn’t even have any real militant wasps or major populations.

  161. …and I don’t care how ‘good’ spiders are, if they don’t keep themselves decently hidden they are getting chewed up by the VC.

  162. Growing up in Minnesota… I see Global Warming as a good thing 🙂 That’s why I moved to San Diego LOL

    But seriously, there are ways to correct the problems we’re facing, but there are too many crazies who prevent the use of Nuclear energy (a proven clean form of energy) and would rather keep the coal burning plants around. That to me it nuts just like the nuts who want a clean planet, but won’t allow people to do the work to provide it.

    Anyway…

    TEB: Yes, Bobo was a character, but who said this owl wasn’t a clockwork with pretty feathers? Hmm…we’ll have to wait and see. 🙂

    TEB: Oh?

  163. I’d be happy with any energy source that’s /mostly/ pollution free and cheaper than coal. I’m also good with drilling locally and getting the U.S. independent of foreign oil. This country could be a world power once again. 🙂

    In lighter news, I was on Dead Robots’ Society last night. WOO WOO!

  164. And, wrapping up earlier:
    Van, you are quite the gentleman!
    Congrats about the Dead Robots, JR!
    Bunny, I hope your hubby feels better. 🙁
    Greek mythology is such rich material – – why not make an original Perseus film? Why remake a crappy movie like Clash of the Titans?

  165. LOL
    What category for those of us who oppose Nuclear Power AND coal fired plants? I have noticed lately that the National energy debate makes it seem like we ONLY have a choice between those 2 options … so the rest of us get left out of the discussion. :cwy:

  166. Re: 4th Austin Powers movie.
    really. must we.
    first one was funny
    second was was kinda funny
    third was ok
    but they where never good enough to warrant doing another

  167. reaper: I agree. I never found the movies to be all that great, but the first was enjoyable. Personally, I liked “So I Married An Axe Murderer” a whole lot more.

  168. opposition to nuclear power is like saying it’s better to drive battery powered cars.

    battery powered cars use COAL from power plants to drive (worse pollution) and will create HUGE amounts of waste when all those batteries go bad and there’s no landfill that will take those batteries. So cars are damned if you do damned if you don’t, but we can’t all ride bikes.

    Nuclear power on the other hand is safe and clean when you compare it to the massive trouble coal plants have had. They has also been huge changes in how they operate over the decades since the two (only 2 out of the hundreds of nuclear power plants) that have happened. And those two that happened, 3 Mile Island was only a close call. Chernobyl happened only because the Soviets had no clue as to what they were doing and screwed up royally.

    That’s my opinion on nuclear power. Granted ‘green’ power would be nice, but it’s still far more expensive and not practical because people don’t want to lay down huge acres of solar panels because it’ll affect the wildlife. and we can’t drill for oil locally because it’ll affect the wildlife and we can’t build more nuclear power plants because people are afraid even though there are hundreds in the U.S. that have run safely for many many decades and thousands world wide that have also been running safely. Opposition to nuclear power can’t be based on what happened decades ago.

    I need to stop ranting LOL

    FUCK! FUCK FUCK!

    There. I feel better 🙂

    Jack: Thanks! It was fun. You up and running at home again? How’s the new HD? what’d you get?

  169. I thought it was Nu-Clear. Darn. I always get that wrong.

    My sinuses are acting up. I’m Sneezy today. I forgot my meds or I’d be Dopey and Sleepy. I’d really rather be Happy or Doc.

  170. Id rather be Stoney or Drunky.

    Wait those are Smurfs…

    “Dude she started smurfing me. Right in the Smurf”
    “No smurfin way”!

  171. The second Wayne’s World featured James Hong! Diss carefully. Those are still my favorite Mike Myers movies. Axe Murderer is definitely better than any of the AP movies. :drevil:

    Although it’s a damn shame the Sprockets movie was never made.

  172. JR on Nuclear power. Amen.
    I don’t know how the hybrid car batteries are for ability to recycle so this stat probably doesn’t but conventional used car batteries only end up with 1% waste and the rest is recycled. So maybe it isn’t as much of a problem but I know that won’t stop someone from leaving them in the back yard.

  173. Whos dissin the Wayne?!?!?!?!? Not me sir! Tho without the Hong WW2 is just kinda…there. Not bad… just there.

    Nows the time you dance.

  174. I have a correction to make. Calling it “Global Climate Change” is NOT more accurate by any means. It the use of soft language for those that cannot or will not come to grips with the fact that Global Warming is mostly man-made. Calling it “change” can sidestep these folk, and it can save scientists from having to re-educate people every time the phrase is used. Look at how many people still get the term theory wrong.

  175. Any advocate for nuclear power should be forced to live near a nuclear dump and feed their kids milk every day from local cows.

    But seriously one of the the biggest problems with nuclear power is the highly radioactive waste generated and the NIMBY attitude by the general public.

  176. As for energy, justa J0e makes an excellent point. In most of these discussions, it becomes a false dichotomy between nuclear and coal.

    I can say that I was all for nuclear energy. Seemed to me to be a no-brainer. This guy does a really, really fantastic job of breaking down nuclear energy. If memory serves, it’s roughly 35 minutes or so.

    http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps/hpr0521.mp3

  177. Vanamonde: Indeed. The guy that does the above podcast episode lives near a power plant, and is therefore very motivated to learn about it. A take you don’t often hear.

    I do recall reading somewhere that there could potentially be a way to utilize radioactive waste, but that seems to have gone the way of the flying car or Duke Nuke ’em Forever.

  178. Well said, Null.
    And ok, sorry to go all political again. . . forget how you classify yourself, how you feel about Obama or any political party. . . . I think this shows what a pathetic, petty bunch you have representing the Republican party right now (assuming it’s true):

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/24/gop-senators-refusing-to_n_511639.html?ref=fb&src=sp

    How is that in the best interest of the country? Is this who we have to provide checks and balances for the Democrats? bah.

  179. The nice thing about not being from this country is that I have not been indoctrinated in any of the party hyperbole. I’m neither conservative nor liberal. I am conservative on some issues, liberal on others.

    One of the worst things to happen to this country was the acceptance of a two party system. It polarizes *all* debates. Every issue has to be divided into polar opposites: yes or no; us or them; I win, you lose. It’s idiotic since most issues can’t be dealt with in that way.

    The only people that win in this kind of system are the politicians, lawyers, and lobbyists.

  180. Van: Waste is no longer disposed of like it was many many decades ago. There are no more 55 gallon drums of waste being dropped off in people’s neighborhoods and a multi-billion dollar facility was built to store this waste in the middle of the dessert miles underground.

    I say we switch this all to the fun topic of God instead. Make believe deities are far more entertaining 🙂

    DAMN! da-damn damn!

    and piss. 🙂

  181. Oh PU-LEEEESE Jack. Dontchu know its much more important to fume over Biden’s F-bomb than to take notice of Senator’s that arent working? Dontchu know!

    So says Fox News and so I believe it.

  182. Here is the bottom line on my opposition to Nuclear Power plants.

    There is not one thing man has ever constructed that has not failed at some point.
    There is not one piece of complicated “whatever” that is operated by humans … that humans haven’t eventual had “catastrophic failure” due to “operator error”.
    Yes, Nuclear power is much safer than it has ever been but anyone who thinks one of these plants won’t eventually have a catastrophic failure is living in a world of fantasy and denial.
    Everything, be it elevators or aircraft or breakfast cereals – at some point can (and have) go very badly.

    So we do “loss/benefit assessments” and determine what we’re willing to give up for the upside. For fast transportation we are willing to give up a 100 or so lives lost every few years.
    Hydro-electric power – maybe a hundred families lose their property forever and when a dam fails may a few dozen people are killed.
    Coal power – well, up till now we are willing to sacrifice a dozen or so minors a year and few thousand black lung/cancer deaths spread through out the mining communities and those living down wind of plants … but spread over many many decades.

    When a Nuclear power plant goes catastrophically wrong though … have any of you REALLY thought about what THAT loss will entail. I’m not even talking about the dozen employees who might die nearly emediatly. I think we’re more then willing to risk “red shirts” for “clean power”. Hey, even the families in the emediate area who may suffer long term illness and death. We are all willing to say “tough luck” to them in exchange for clean power …
    What no one wants to talk about is the crippling effect to the nation’s economy when 300,000 and up (some of these plants are located quite near major US cities) taxpayers are suddenly turned into refugees.
    Do you remember how it disrupted things when a half million people were dislocated from the gulf coast for a few weeks following Katrina?

    Well this won’t be a few weeks. It will be permanent. They leave home with little or nothing and since their homes and property lay within the plume … they have No jobs and NO collateral for loans.

    So that’s my beef. I don’t see Nuclear power as being any more likely to fail than a commercial airliner … but one eventually will and the cost to this country will be devastating.
    I think anyone who just shrugs that off is being exactly like those who were told the the levees in N.O. couldn’t withstand a major Hurricane and ignored it as something that could only possibly happen someday.

    it’s just a check our nation couldn’t cover.

  183. CP: The Whole Night Sky – Christine Collister

    Yeah I know it’s a Bruce Coburn song, but I love CC’s cover..made me a fan of hers.

  184. Van: I’ll have to check that out.

    For the record: I’m not reading any more rants today. I’m going to have fun and enjoy myself.

    That is all.

  185. The great thing bout these storms is I got the whole day off of work.. then by 10am its clear and awesome out there. Yeah Spring-ish storms!

  186. ,m drty lrght.

    wait since y is sometimes a vowel do we have to cut that out too?

    ditto lets have a conversation using only Twisted Sister and Quiet Riot lyrics. Include a smattering of W.A.S.P FTW

  187. ditto: “I thought the second offensive joke in Evo@11 was pretty funny. :)” – Agreed 🙂

    As for nuclear power… you’re right. Progress sucks. Let’s go be Amish 🙂

  188. Jack: “Go! Go, go, go, go, go!
    Turn the power up
    I’ve waited for so long so I could hear my favorite song so,
    Let’s go!”

  189. I think you are being incredibly disingenuous and belittling if you are saying that my POV is somehow “anti progress”.
    Did I say we shouldn’t have elevators and aircraft and breakfast cereals?
    I said we analyze gains vs. loss and in the case of Nuclear power the possible loss is not worth the possible benefits.

    BTW: I will point out that I started this day by posting some delightful light and fun links. Really. I did. 🙁

  190. I mean no ill will. To me, Nuclear power is safe, clean, efficient and has been proven safe for nearly 50 years. Coal power has claimed lives, destroyed the environment (via Global Warming, Global Climate Change, etc) and is highly inefficient and we need a viable alternative. I can do nothing about how you feel or what you believe and I wouldn’t seek to do so. We all have opinions.

    I’m just trying to get out of the conversation and save bad feelings. Hence the ‘god’ joke and the Amish comment.

    On that note, I need to re-watch The Wall and prepare to talk to Jack about Floyd. That’ll be far more fun.

    Joe, you rock as a person even if we don’t agree on power 🙂 That’s what makes the U.S. a great place to live and the Deadpan a great place to hang out. no hard feelings. Let’s go back to lighter topics.

  191. For me, Deadpan has felt a little intense this week. That’s not a judgment, just an observation.

    A great friend of mine has a theory that has helped me a lot as I have worked hard on my sobriety. It’s had broader implications for me recently. The theory is that everyone is doing the best that he/she can. I buy it.

    CP: Atonement — Lucinda Williams

  192. Ok, does anybody know what song the line:

    “Don’t ask me what I think of you, I might not give you answers that you want me to.”

    comes from?

  193. Agreed. Thanks for pointing this out, EssBee.

    These are tumultuous political times, with the government taking big risky steps and radical forces getting far too much attention in the news, issuing unfunny threats and overblown doomsday predictions at the stability of our way of life. We’re all entitled to feel a little bit freaked out right now.
    This is a great place for smart, rational people to have smart, rational discussions, but it’s also always been a place of stress-escape too.

    Everyone:
    Deep inhale for 4 seconds, hold for 7, release slowly for 8. (Don’t keep doing this or you’ll pass out)

  194. Next time I’ll remember… type up big post… take a deep breath… come back 5 minutes later… change the post to FUCK!… and let it be. 🙂 Conflicting opinions usually end up butting heads and I never intended to do that.

    I keep typing more and more and deleting it. I need to relax 🙂

    FUCK!

    I feel much better now. Joe! I love you man!

  195. CP: Keep on Loving You – REO Speedwagon

    Right, off to play some Perfect Dark on the 360..that’s the redo of the N64 version.

  196. Man, you kids have been rocking the bar today.

    Van, you’ll appreciate this:

    I clicked your link to see ZP savage Bad Company 2….

    …the 15 second ad that ran before the review – Bad Company 2.

    Bet they really got their money’s worth out of that one.

  197. That was a long gap between you-know-what and pork fried rice.

    So – I’m heading home to look at options for tonight’s show, but I actually have almost nothing in the way of audio files. I have some stuff I can read, but it may be a short episode. We’ll see.

  198. If’n youll allow me to finish off your list, EssBee-

    C- Cat Power
    H- Hooverphonic
    O-Otep
    R- Rosemary Clooney (fuck you, she rocks)
    W- Wata
    X- X-Ray Spex
    Z- Zen Dog

    Admittedly I had to look up “Z”. Ah well… not bad still. Musac lists am fun.

  199. reaper and I are different.

    reaper Says: March 24th, 2010 at 11:25 am Wayne’s World 2 is the one and only movie I ever saw in the theater twice.
    I even had the Hat.

    Dark Knight is the only movie I’ve seen in the theater twice.

  200. 3 out of 5 parts of the Deadpan MMMMMeetup audio that I recorded will be uploaded by the end of tonight. I’m too tired to sit and wait for the other two parts to upload, so I’m going to bed. Night, Pan!

  201. So, here goes:
    I’m all about the global nuclear warming trend that Wierd Al has prevented by refusing to allow committees to stay engaged on capital hill with his overt Darth Vader balloon homage to Zardoz in the night skies preventing Lost by snowing down on Colorado.

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