349 thoughts on “Jack Mangan's Deadpan Unshow #23

  1. or Dick

    ­čÖé

    Hugh sez: aaand we are back in the gutter ladies and gentlemen

    Jack started it!

    Hugh sez: how?

    He sez Master Bait in the other thread ­čÖé

    Hugh sez: LOL. He also said we can both cum

    I think he said come not cum, hughie

    Hughie sez: I’d rather cum

    well you have to come over here to cum

    Hughie sez: you are so wise, woman

  2. Hughs Economic Second:
    Asian markets are looking good today. There might be some hope for a positive close tomorrow. But really did people expect things to change overnight? None of the bailout has been implemented yet.

    ok pan we are going to go to bed and try an experiment

    Our yoga teacher told us if we sleep in Savasana or ‘corpse pose’ (flat on your back, arms, head and legs straight, no pillow) supposedly we will get the best nights sleep evar.

    hugh sez: Im going to miss our usual position ­čÖü

    me too ­čÖü Except I usually end up waking up and having to slip out from underneath you cuz you are crushing me

    Hugh sez: sorry ­čÖü

    its ok baby ­čÖé you know i love it

    Hugh sez: I know babe.

    goodnight/day to paniacs everywhere

  3. Morning, Deadpan!

    I’m hosting a big conference this weekend (nothing so exciting as World Fantasy, I’m afraid), so will be sparse(r).

    Hope you all have a wonderful Thursday!

  4. Genre, maybe not. At that age we lived on the farm and only got one channel. However, I’m embarrassed to say, I do remember having a huge crush on Tom Wopat from Dukes of Hazzard, though. I even had a scrap book full of tabloid pictures and articles. ­čś│

  5. I like the smell of fresh grilled salmon with a hint of dill. ­čÖé Of course, the fish one would find in a can of cat food is particularly discusting. Then again if I were to choose a house hold deoderant, I would pick Apple Blossoms over Salmon & Dill. LOL

  6. Oh, BTW, Rhettro. My husband sorted through his D & D minis on the weekend. It turns out he has 743. The new set comes out next month, so I imagine the number will go up soon.

  7. I think he beats me on a scale of 20 to 1, LOL. I’m almost done with Hordes of the Underdark, Deekin’s conversations with my lady Drow friend have grown quite funny.

  8. We’ve finished The Keep on the Shadowfell and have moved onto The Thunderspire Labyrinth. There’s a NPC in the Keep named Splug. If you go into the D&D forums on WotC, some people were really mean to Splug. To me he was just there, I didn’t try to torture him, or use him as bait.

  9. Sorry, wrong type of D&D. I couldn’t finish Hoards, it kept crashing at a certain spot and I never did find a patch that would properly fix it. ­čÖü

  10. LOL, interesting TEB. Yeah, Hordes did crash about midway through, but I found out by patching to the latest version (1.69 I think) and turning off “shiney water” in the advanced graphic settings, it ran smooth as silk, no more crashes.

  11. That’s the version I was listening to. I’m thinking of something that starts and ends similar to Placebo’s version, but turns hard towards the middle; to reflect the sadness and anger in the song.

  12. Lunch was ok. Watched the news – boring. The movie Flushed Away was on TV so I watched that while I sewed dragon wings. Now on to computer stuff.

  13. I’d say you should not worry too much about learning theory before you start making your own music. Mess around, find riffs of your own that you like. As you learn more theory, you’ll develop a better framework for your future ideas. My $0.02.

    CP (do I admit this? Sure, why not): Raindrops Keep Fallin On My Head – BJ Thomas

  14. I guess I’ve been wanting a little more structure to my playing. I still practice songs and riffs to build coordination and a better sense of rhythm, but I would like to better understand how scales play into chords etc. Trying to do equal portions of both. ­čÖé

  15. It’s equal parts art and science, that’s what makes it so tough.

    I had fun playing “I Want Out” on Guitar Pro last night though.

  16. Bathroom’s nice and clean. (at least the upstairs one is. I don’t bother with the guest one unless we have people staying over). Now of to get groceries. No rest for the bunny!

  17. Happy Thanksgiving to TEB, ditto, marlodianne, Mario Lemieux, Scott Stevens, 99, Jacques Lemaire, Devin Townsend, The Kids in the Hall, and fine Canadians (and Canadiens) everywhere.

    ditto, their stuff is so diverse, and at times, extremely intense. It’s tough to pick a starting point. . . I usually recommend the song, “Windowpane” as an intro. For albums, I really like “Watershed”, their latest. Some songs do incorporate roaring vocals, so you’ll need to have a tolerance to really explore their catalogue.

  18. Thanks, Jack. I like diverse. I’m just trying to see if I’m interested in them or not; that’s always hard to figure out with established bands that you aren’t familiar with.

  19. Hey, y’all. Anyone wanna give me a brief overview of the DP action from the past couple of weeks?

    Hows everyone? Ed weather the storm? SHs doing ok with the market doom?? Etc…

  20. Doing ok. Kerry quit and is tattooing one day a week until we figure out what to do (ie open our own shop here or elsewhere). I am still the same…work, rugby, work, rugby….

    Went to Colorado really close to Boulder, but didn’t have the time to try to meet up with anyone (read: Alvie). It was a friend’s wedding.

  21. Washing machine FAIL! Four years is wayyyyy too early for the motor to burn out, IMO. Apparently anytime after a year is reasonableto the warranty folks, tho. Between that and fixing annoying-but-liveable dishwasher problem we’re out $350.

    At least it’s at a time where the financial state of the US economy is sound and no budget troubles loom for anybody…

  22. Shh, nobody tell my wife, cuz she’d disapprove, but the new company is more relaxed-seeming about internet usage policy. I don’t plan on surfing dozens of sites a day or getting lots of rich-media content, but I think a re-emergence on the Pan during the day will occur shortly after we are off the old company’s net…

  23. WHoa, a Jeremy sighting! Most excellent.

    Short synopsis: We have been deadpan….and moving farther and farther away from retirement.

  24. thats someones recording of hte same story on MsNBC

    McCain needed to do that. All that crap about Obama being muslim and Arab.
    People actually questioning if he was an American.

    Lemme see here..if I remember taking the constitution test like EVERY single American has to, one qualification for being president is being a natural born American citizen.

  25. Hughs back! Save me from talking to myself baby

    Hugh sez: what you have you been discussing?

    that McCain clip we saw before we left for the movie

    Hugh sez: oh yeah that was good.

    and we went to see Religulous tonight

    Hugh sez: it was pretty fucking funny. But only recommended if you have a sense of humor about your own religion. Seems some people can laugh at other peoples religions but get offended when their own is discussed.

    word

  26. why the hell did wordpress not like that comment

    Hugh sez: it probably thought we laughed too much

    it did contain 2 LOL’s in it ­čÖé

    Adric from Dr Who!!! I loved Adric!! The best episode evar was when Adric died. OMG I remember crying for days. I had such a crush on him

    Hugh sez: you were hot for Adric?

    I was a wee girl, leave me alone

    Hugh sez: heh

  27. I love Candlelight

    Hugh sez: I’m developing a mancrush on Jack

    So is Jack on your ‘I would turn gay for’ list?

    Hugh sez: There is only 1 man I would turn gay for. No offense Jack.

    I dont want you to be gay Hugh

    Hugh sez: no worries

    no worries! We were told we were “too Chicago” today for our use of No worries

    Jack- we loved that song. Very very nice.

  28. good song Jack, very sad

    Hugh sez: Yeah, it had a very sad edge to it

    Jack didn’t come back after the music ­čÖü

    Hugh sez: I win! Get thine clothes off and get in the bed babe!!

    w00t! ­čÖé The will Jack come back after the music game: no matter what, everyone wins!

    Alright pan, its been fun

    Hugh sez: keep it real

    no worries

    Hugh sez: LOL. Yeah. Straight from Chicago, we send you a sincere- No worries

    ­čÖé we are so Chicago Hughie

    Hugh sez: Chicago fucking rules

    word my brotha!!

    night pan

  29. So, since I’m nearly finished my current Gutenberg project, I had to score some more books. That part was easy. The ugly part came when my scanner refused to work with Vista.

    It appears that Lexmark decided to refuse to make vista drivers for any of their devices, rendering all of their equipment, including my all-in-one, paperweights.

    How brilliant of them.

    So books I have, but I can’t make them electrons…:(

  30. Glad the shows are going well, Jack ­čÖé

    We spent the evening looking at art. It was cool, we saw some good shit, but depressing

    Hugh sez: we want to show our new shit

    we love our current work and haven’t been able to show it to anyone ­čÖü

    Hugh sez: I anticipate 2009 will be the triumphant return of the smarty hotties to the chicago art scene

    ­čÖé fuck yeah bay-bee!!!

  31. Ripped from another conf, political systems explained using cows:

    FEUDALISM: You have two cows. Your lord takes some of the milk.

    PURE SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else’s cows. You have to take care of all of the cows. The government gives you as much milk as you need.

    BUREAUCRATIC SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and put them in a barn with everyone else’s cows. They are cared for by ex-chicken farmers. You have to take care of the chickens the government took from the chicken farmers. The government gives you as much milk and eggs as the regulations say you need.

    FASCISM: You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you to take care of them and sells you the milk.

    PURE COMMUNISM: You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk.

    RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk.

    CAMBODIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. The government takes both of them and shoots you.

    DICTATORSHIP: You have two cows. The government takes both and drafts you.

    PURE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors decide who gets the milk.

    REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors pick someone to tell you who gets the milk.

    BUREAUCRACY: You have two cows. At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them. Then it pays you not to milk them. Then it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain. Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the missing cows.

    PURE ANARCHY: You have two cows. Either you sell the milk at a fair price or your neighbors try to take the cows and kill you.

    LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

    SURREALISM: You have two giraffes. The government requires you to take harmonica lessons.

  32. I like your cows to explain politics, Van ­čÖé

    Hugh sez: especially the surrealism one

    I don’t know when no worries became a Chicago expression, I didnt realize it was either a chicago or Australian thing. A cousin of Hugh’s was saying we were such Chicagoans cuz we were saying no worries.

    Hugh sez: The only other people we know who use no worries on a regular basis like we do is our friend Andy.

    Yeah. Andy uses it more than we do. Everytime you greet Andy (hello, good morning, how ya doing, whats up) he responds with no worries.

    Hugh sez: He was born and raised in Chicago, as were we

    but do other native Chicagoans use no worries?

    Hugh sez: we must do a scientific study on this

    make sure you get us a million dollar grant in order to study this

    Hugh sez: yes!

  33. Speaking of Hughs cousin

    We are supposed to have brunch with Hugh’s ginormous family, including said cousin, this morning.

    Hugh sez: My cousin is visiting from Minneapolis

    We were feeling very lazy and are waiting for Hugh’s brother and sister and spouses and their gaggle of kids to get here so we can go get brunch.

    Hugh sez: seriously my family needs to fucking relax with the reproducing.

    The visiting cousin announced he has impregnated his wife

    Hugh sez: so my clan grows even larger. We will take over the world one day

  34. you realize we are going to need a table for 50 at the restaurant

    Hugh sez: LOL. We made a reservation and they are giving us our own room.

    Oh!! and there is another Hugh family announcement!

    Hugh sez: yeah! My older sister in NY is getting married ­čÖé She got engaged Friday night

    awwwww. and she asked Hugh to be her man of honor ­čÖé

    Hugh sez: I hope she doesn’t try to put me in a brides maid dress, or expect me to dance with the best man.

    ­čÖé I doubt it honey

  35. His legacy is not the guy who complains about taint

    hugh sez: there is nothing wrong with a little taint between lovers

    LOL.. Oh Hugh ­čÖé get your mind out of the gutter

    Hugh sez: I like my mind in the gutter, I wont take it out!! I wont I wont!!

    yes sir!!!! yeesh!

  36. I have no need to impress anyone.
    Well I do try to impress Hugh, but not because I think he doesn’t like me. I just like trying to make him happy. I do things that i know he likes but not out of some need for Hugh to think I am cool.

    Hugh sez: we did suffer from wanting to be cool when we were young

    yeah we did, and it totally sucked didn’t it?

    Hugh sez: and by sucked we mean in the bad way.

  37. Agreed. We drive our Prius because we want to support that industry, and we even got a used one. We’ve never been ones to buy stupid expensive things

    Hugh sez: well except your shoe fetish

    shoe fetish?!??!??!!!??? I dont buy expensive name brand designer shoes. Im not a designer name slut

    Hugh sez: true, true I take back my comment your honor. You aren’t a designer name whore.

    thank you

  38. it is Hugh’s fam trying to park their ginormous van outside ­čÖé Speaking of big expensive cars. BUT they need to drive that boat. Between Hugh’s brother and sister they have 11 kids and they live a few blocks from each other and they went in on this car together to cart the kids all around to school and after school functions and what not.

    we’re going to go now

    l8r paniacs

    enjoy your Sundaze everyone

  39. Iiiiiii’m Baaaaack.

    Anybody miss me?
    No.
    Well, I’ve a mountain of chores to do (not to mention laundry) and some audio for Ms. Amy so I may only be in “drive-by” mode today but I wanted to say “Good Morning”.

  40. … and BTW-
    GOOD GRIEF !!!!!
    WHO THE FRAK GAVE THE CONTROLS OF THE STOCK MARKET TO CHIMPANZEES WHILE I WAS GONE!!!
    THEY APPARENTLY WENT RIGHT FOR THE“IMPLODE” BUTTON. I’VE LOST HALF MY RETIREMENT!!!!

  41. Random Canadian election update:

    Harper (current P.M., Conservative) says Dion (running for P.M, Liberal) can’t lead Canada because he is:

    A) French

    and

    B) Hearing impaired

    Now, that’s disgusting enough, but the worst part is the majority of Canadians appear to agree with him. WTF?

    Have I mentioned today how much I hate people?

  42. j0e!!!!! I missed you ­čÖé

    ummm.. please don’t say stock markets, or retirement accounts or any other related word in front of Hugh.

    I’m trying to stay out of his way today. He’s been muttering to himself while he works all morning.

    So I’m going to quietly work on my photography now ­čÖé

  43. Thanks all.

    Back in briefly to grab a bit of food (didn’t have time for breakfast) and it’s back out again.

    Ed – the horror … the horror … the horror …

    Andrea – make sure you keep firearms and sharp objects away from Hugh!

    marlodianne- it’s a good thing we are family and not people! ­čśë

  44. Hugh keeps trying to tell himself we have 30-40 more years before we need the retirement money so we have time to make it up.

    methinks he keeps trying to tell himself that so he will feel better.

    I dont think its firearms or sharp objects I need to keep away from him, I think its the computer ­čÖé

  45. ok. Hugh just looked up from his computer and said “Thats it. I need to go out for a really long liquid lunch. This shit is driving me fucking crazy”

    but then he turned back and went right back into it ­čÖé

    I’ll give him another half hour, then go into understanding-comforting spouse mode and try and get him away from the computer

  46. I watch my yellow cat invade my red cat in the yard.
    The feline war has raged for years so I assume it├óÔéČÔäód be to hard
    for me to drive my foot between them. I would never risk the scratch
    just to prove to one or both of them a cat is just a cat.

  47. oh NOW everyone comes out ­čśë

    I trust Hugh’s mad trading skillz. I’m not worried he will make a bad decision.

    ditto- I liked that cartoon ­čÖé it is so very true

    well its been fun kids. Not sure if we will be around here for a bit, but maybe on the weekend. Got lots going on and then next week we are going to Houston for a week

    take care of each other

    l8r paniacs

  48. So after watching the latest clone wars episode, I long for a scifi series of any kind that doesn’t treat nebulas in space as dense clouds that you can hide in…

  49. Speaking of iTunes and DRM, Teresa has a large collection of iTunes songs on our older computer. The harddrive the files are located on is starting to fail, so it makes it tough to back those files up and reauthorise them. So I’m going to begin the lengthy task of de-DRMing the files. You basically have iTunes burn the files to CD, then rip the CD to MP3. =P

  50. @rhettro I’ve done that with some of the stuff I bought from iTunes. It’s nice that they built *something* in that would let you get your music to a safe place. Even if it’s a total PITA to manage…

    CP : History According to Bob : Roman Imperial Government

  51. I belive Jack is going to be a guest on the next Evo@11, perhaps that’s two opprotunities to rib Evo? I’m not feeling particularly clever at the moment, I may take Evo on when I have all my wits about me. I know I’ll need them. LOL

  52. And that’s why when I buy, I buy from Amazon. I still occasionally troll the newsgroups, but they aren’t nearly as reliable as they once were. I supposed they’ve moved on to torrents, but I’ve just never been able to get into that scene.

    I’m also at a stage in life where $0.99 or less for a DRM free song that I’m free to put on my Ipod, the wife’s Ipod, and the daughter’s Sansa is a fair deal that I’m willing to pay for.

  53. That’s what I do Ed when I can, I download from Amazon. Otherwise I’m inclined to buy real CD’s and rip them. The glut of free music from podcasts and artist’s websites keeps me pretty entertained though. ­čÖé

  54. Re: Fun with Evo@11
    Sadly, I have only time to post on one board today.

    Sorry I could hang out and play today Andrea. You guys take care.

    RE:DRM stuff.
    I guess I am out of the loop on this stuff.
    I rarely buy a song on-line … choosing instead to spend a couple bucks more and buy the whole cd from Ebay … having a “hard copy” just seems the only way to go because hard drives will ALWAYS eventually fail.

    The few tunes I buy from iTunes (usually specialty stuff – Christmas, Sound FX, oldies or the like) eventually get burnt to discs as “normal” music cd’s (see my policy on wanting a hard copy back-up) so I’ve assumed I can always re-rip those cd’s (legally or not) to any computer I care to.

    This has always been the way I’ve worked and so far it seems to have made the “DRM” issue a moot point.

    Perhaps I’m missing something?

  55. Machine gun responses (machine gun nipples? gross. . .):

    I read every comment, btw.

    Marlo, your mod purgatory sentence is up!

    Most of my new music in the past year were free legal downloads from Spinner and/or Pitchfork.

    Love that xkcd, Brad. Used to have it posted to the fridge.

    Rhett- I think there was a wave of shock and horror through the crowd when Mikael Akerfeldt of Opeth said that he’d loved the Skid Row concert.

  56. “Woke up to the sound of pouring rain
    The wind would whisper and I’d think of you
    And all the tears you cried, that called my name
    And when you needed me I came through ”

    LOL

  57. CW: Lost in Austen episode 2 on DVD.

    A fantasy where a modern day Pride and Prejudice fan enters the world of the book through a magic door and starts to bugger up the plot.

    Sounds cheesey but so far has been rather fun.

  58. So … in essence are they saying –

    “Wrong, Do it again!”
    “If you don’t eat yer prostitute, you can’t have any syphilis. How can you
    beat the Axis if you don’t beat yer meat?”
    “You! Yes, you behind the Deadpan, stand still laddy!”

  59. And JOe cements his “man crush” position with me. LOL

    So weird news on the job front. I got another promotion. Yes I’m still on reduced hours as is the entire firm, but it looks like I’m not going to get laid off.

  60. Van: My scientist wife watched Eleventh Hour and enjoyed it. She said they got enough of the science right for it to get a pass in her book. I haven’t seen it yet.

  61. After telling the wife that 11th hour is originally a BBC series, she started recording it on BBC America. They started running the series from the beginning. It’s hard to go wrong with Patrick Stewart.

    A few weeks back, BBCA started running commercials with all the shows that have since been “ported” to the US with the tagline “Where American television comes from.”

    Brilliant.

  62. Ditto, that poster makes me feel bad for the poor girl. You know you really needed a paycheck when you agree to be *the* face of skanky dirty..

    Van: Entering the work of Jane Austen, and you don’t speak of Jasper Fforde?

  63. I’ve started listening to Indiana Jim’s Star Wars story on his podcast. The promo’s sounded a bit cheesy to me, but it’s actually proving to be quite engaging. This one is definitely an audio drama and not a “book”. I think he’s captured the spirit and feel of the original movies. It’s set shortly after Return of the Jedi.

    With his production schedule, I think the folks over at “Children of the Gods” could stand some help from him. That’s another interesting audio drama that I picked up from a Slice interview a couple of years ago, but it seems to take them several months to get a new episode out.

    Still, it’s all free, so I’m not inclined to complain. Itunes catches it all when it’s ready.

  64. Thanks for the heads up Ed. I would like to hear Jim’s take on a SW universe story. I’ve listened to a couple of audio dramas based around Star Wars and a couple were quite good, but most were lacking. I need to find the definitive SW audio drama outlet, much like Darker Projects is the Star Trek outlet.

  65. On another note, I can’t say I’m really enjoying Heroes at this point. I realize they are trying to shake things up, but the fact that the characters aren’t staying in character is really starting to bother me.

  66. Re: Heroes
    I have all this season’s episodes on the TiVo but haven’t gotten to them yet. So far the feedback hasn’t made me rush to view them.
    I almost watched the season opener last night but as I was about to push “play” I changed my mind and went for the season opener of “The Office”.

    I laughed … so I am going to count it as a good choice.

  67. I know this isn’t a revolutionary thought, but the Republican/Democrat system has caused too much damage. You want Washington reform? Start there. Get people thinking about the issues again, rather than just which side they’re supposed to take.

  68. Random (or is it?) hitchhiker quote:

    “a bunch of mindless jerks who’ll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes,”

    Excuse while I go and polish my hammer and sickle.

  69. Jack: I agree.

    Ed: I just started watching season 1 of Chuck. Loving it so far. I also find it highly amusing that people will complain about the fan service in anime, yet don’t seem to mind it when it is in a show like Chuck. ­čśë

  70. The Middleman series was good for that, even if some of the references to Joe 90 and original Dr Who characters were probably wasted on most of the US audience.

  71. That’s it !!!!

    I’ve started cleaning THAT drawer in my kitchen. You know, the one under the counter that the answering machine sits on … the one that collects all that STUFF you don’t know what to do with …
    … so I start pulling STUFF out and it’s been an hour and it’s still loaded with STUFF and I suddenly realize … IT’S NOT A DRAWER, IT”S A FRAKEN TARDIS !!!!

    That’s the only reasonable explanation for how it can contain this endless supply of paper clips and twist ties and nail and screws and batteries of unknown condition and caps for pens long since lost and pencils with no point on them and old postcards and installation tools for long forgotten items and what ever the HECK this thing is! I have no idea what it is but I am SURE it was important!!!!

    ACK!!!!

  72. Morning Pan.
    I indefinitely suspended the drawer project.
    I found an SAS unit in there and it occurred to me that if I didn’t stop looking, I might actually find Osama Bin Laden.
    That would have a distracting effect on the upcoming election so I thought it best to just back away slowly.

  73. RE: Saturday night live sketch.
    It served to point out to me how dependent on current pop culture that show’s humor is.
    I don’t keep up with Marky Mark so, past the “Wouldn’t this be lame if it were an actual show” premise … I just didn’t get the joke. ­čÖü

  74. *soapbox mode*
    Some of these clowns on CNBC are really driving me NUTS.
    They are trying to discuss the candidate’s economic plans and this one prick keeps saying “Obama’s increase in Capital gains taxes is BAD for the stock market.”

    GOOD for the stock market isn’t always the same as GOOD for the economy, you jerk!
    Case in point … Corporations have moved their jobs overseas. This decreased their costs, increased their quarterly profits and was GREAT for the stock market … for a while. Till all those laid off workers no longer had money to buy the goods and services.

    “Good” for the market was BAD for the economy and eventual proved poisonous for the market.

    You fix the economy FIRST you lunk head – and then the market will follow!
    Grrrrrrrrr.
    */soap box mode*

  75. I’ll have to check out the new ZP over lunch. I rewatched his review of Mass Effect and I thought it was funny that just him, I was halfway through the game before I figured out you could apply upgrades to the different weapons. LOL

  76. I saw an actual PDP (not working) at an exhibition on the history of computer games. They had to use a Vectrex running Space Wars to give an idea how it ran on the PDP.

  77. I was joking about Pr0n with Patman and Gil over Gmail and got a funny targeted ad from ESPN. “Rocket not upset with Yanks, lacks desire to play”

    LOL

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